COPIED FROM FACEBOOK MESSAGE FROM THE SVAE OUR RAVES FACEBOOK GROUP
“I have personally heard from the creator (Warren James) of the petition that was first set up over 12 MONTHS ago. Anyway it seems we have two players in this INFO war game. Warren James who originally set up the petition and a unknown player who wrote the PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO SAVE OUR RAVES!!!!!! I am now on route on tracking that person(s) whoever it maybe……here is what Warren had to say. Sorry its so long but…
From: colin nisbett
Sent: 16 January 2009 13:44
To: warrenjames
Subject: E-Petitions.
hey warren, Im sorry to barge in like this, but an important matter as arisen and I was wondering if you are the same Warren James that started this petition on http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoNoiseControl/
If so can you please clarify and/or give the source of your information?
Thank you.
From: warrenjames
To: colinnisbett
Subject: RE: E-Petitions.
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:51:50 +0000
Hi Colin,
The petition was started quite some time ago, in fact over 12 months ago and was relating to the word on the street amongst lots of musicians in the industry in and around the end of 2007/2008.
It seems that only recently this petition has been picking up momentum, it is clearly something that the government did not do and I have added a statement to my website which I’ve copied you into below… Cheers!
STATEMENT TO DOWNING STREET E PETITION…
Due to the many contacts I have received regarding the E-petition on the 10 Downing Street website I have made the following statement for the many supporters and the critics.
It is great to see so many people supporting the comments made on the e-petition on the Downing Street website which started early in 2008, all 33000 of you seem to agree with the issue raised.
Although the issue that I was angry with and petitioned against in early 2007 never actually came to fruition there was most definitely at the time very good reason to start the petition as countless associates in the music business were hearing the same statements which was that the government were going to make it a legal requirement to have a noise limitation device in all live music venues.
This never did happen, thus allowing live music to continue ‘reasonably’ un-interrupted.
We do need to remember that we still have venues in the UK with these devices installed and set to a drastic and unfair level which cuts you off the second the drummer taps his kit. It is also important to remember that these devices ultimately damage your electric equipment such as amplifiers and instruments which are not designed to be switched on and off constantly because a little “musicians speed camera” tells you that you are too loud “in its opinion”.
I am pleased to see that our government didn’t continue with the proposals that we were getting word of as we do not need any more restrictions on the live music industry, it is heavily restricted as it is.
It may appear that I jumped without thinking when I made the Downing Street Petition, however, by doing this quickly and promptly it allowed people to voice their opinion good and early. Very often it is too late by the time our voice gets heard the damage has been done. Musicians in the UK have to work and I am pleased I got in there quickly, even if ultimately nothing was achieved because nothing actually happened in the end, let us not forget that THIS IS A GOOD THING.
Thank you everyone for taking the time to sign the petition and make your voice heard… let us be happy that this didn’t happen, sometimes sitting back and waiting can mean the damage is done and your voice won’t be heard once it is too late”.
Warren James
Thursday 15th January 2009
Best Wishes
Warren
www.warrenjames.net
www.paulleegan.com
From: colin nisbett
Sent: 16 January 2009 16:45
To:warrenjames
Subject: RE: E-Petitions.
Thank you for clearing that up. Just one more thing now if you could please help me. Me and hundreds more received this email yesterday.
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO SAVE OUR RAVES!!!!!
IF THE LAW PASSES, IT MEANS THE END OF CLUB/RAVE/CONCERTS LETS STOP THEM WHILST WE CAN!!!
It seems the government are thinking ‘What better way to start the new year, than to take another God given right away from everyone!’.
Yes thats right, the Government are trying pass legislation to force all entertainment venues to have noise control limiters fitted. This means the end of live music, nightclubs etc as we know it! No more oversized collection of speakers, no more massive F1 and Turbo stacks, no more throwing club nights the way we want! I’m sure I’m not speaking for myself when I say that when I go to a club, the last thing on my mind is being able to stand in front of the stack with a cup of tea, chatting about Antiques Roadshow – I wanna actually hear and feel the music the way it should be heard!
Please, please, please, take a minute to sign this petiton. This is just one more thing to add to the list that the Government feel that they should be in control of. It won’t take long to sign up, and please hurry as the cut off date is 23rd January! STAND UP, AND BE HEARD!
Please forward this message to all your friends, and if you are part of any other groups, please inform Admin so that they can get the masses involved!
Once again:
CUT OFF DATE: JANUARY 23rd 2009 !!!
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoNoiseControl/
If at all possible can you shed any light on this?
Thank you.
Hi Colin,
No not too sure about that one, I haven’t seen it before, but as I said in previous mails nothing ever came of this so whoever wrote it has nothing to worry about their ‘raves’ are safe for the time being unless they’ve heard something like we did in the Midlands last year.
Cheers
Warren”
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